Territorial musings

More Musings

I have been looking around at historical stuff on MacTavish. Found this site which contains a lot more useful information than you'd expect at first glance. For the moment, I looked at the maps as it has been a mytery to me where exactly in Argyll our historical lands actually lie. I now have much better Idea - South of Kilmartin (the River Add, actually), North of Castle Sween, West of Highway 83, East of the Isle of Jura. The site of Dunnardrie and the castle/fort is on the River Add at the north of the territory. The Knapdale forest is solid MacTavish country. I wonder if this land is going to be a wood town ingame?

I have yet to go for a cyberjourney to the ahistorical lands I have creatively carved out for us to the North of Loch Lomond - in the Trossarchs (mountainous woody country - would become MacGregor land in the 16th century).

If Argyll opens up ingame for colonisation, would be pretty cool if we established a strong presence in the area around Dunnardrie. Until that glorious day, I intend to stay based in Whithorn. Of course, there'll probably be a lot of Campbells claiming Argyll as their own, so expect to have a bit of jostling amongst the clans. And don't fall for the propoganda which says MacTavish are in some way junior to Campbell. We're not.

I'll post the maps up to give you an easy look (it took me awhile to work it all out) as soon as I find time and inclination to do so.

AAP Article about NNGO/RSA/England

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LONDON (AAP) - There are rumours that NNGO will use a political stronghold to position themselves to attack England. According to the leader of the Ayr Ducal Party (ADP), Krelian von Liechtenstein Stewart, NNGO has created two of the four Council lists in order to maximize and gain most of the support at the polls, which would guarantee that the NNGO receives at least 50 percent of Council seats if true.According to a transcribed conversation provided by Krelian, reputed to have taken place in the NNGO Embassy, the alliance between NNGO and the Royal Scottish Army (RSA) is a ruse. A portion of the transciption purportedly stated that Anto_Capone, leader of the NNGO, allegedly said that the alliance is just a formality and that "nothing is binding forever."The RSA has publicly declared peaceful relations between the Country of Scotland and England; however, Anto_Capone was allegedly overheard telling NNGO affiliates that members of the RSA are "not needed for our invasion, but would be welcomed nonetheless to serve in the armies."According to the transcription provided by Krelian, prominent leaders of both the RSA and the NNGO were unable to agree to terms and thus reached a stalemate in negotiations.The transcribed conversation is not factual, according to NNGO Spokesperson, Muin. The conversation was taken out of context to be used as propaganda. "There are rumours about every organization, some started by the organizations themselves, some by others. This bit of news, I'm afraid, is very far from the truth," she said.When approached for comment, Anto_Capone, denied the allegations. "Is there nothing else to talk about except hearsay about NNGO? Seriously, it is an election time," he said.Spellman for the AAP

[24 Dec 1455 - some of us are having trouble finding this so I posted it here]

MacTavish Lands

A representative from the Court of Lyons has asked if of the two areas the circle above Loch Lomond is the area that you consider the seat of the MacTavish land?

I answered her thus:

I think ig MacTavishes come from the circled area above Loch Lomond:

Somewhere in the triangle formed by modernday Crianlarich, Tyndrum and Killin. This conincides with border area between Dumbartonshire, Perthshire and Stirlingshire, and clans of MacGregor, MacNab, Bucchanan, Campbell and, to north east, Murray. This should leave some flexibility as to which county to locate the seat. I imagine that the ancestral home in Argyll still exists, but has devolved since the clan's disintegration into a minor though independent family.

Maps and Territories

Seer of the Lyons Hall sent me a couple ancient maps, asking me to indicate where I thought the lands of the MacTavishes were. The original maps she sent are here and here.



Here are my two extracts from those maps, indicating in red shaded area the two main territories of Clan MacTavish. There will no doubt be other pockets of MacTavishness throughout Scotland (such as in present day 1455 Galloway). The Western most zone is the historical territory, apparantly centred around stronghold at Dunardry. The inland zone, above Loch Lomond, is the region surrounding the original Dunn Tavish.

Dunn Tavish was a 'colony' of the main clan, set up by a younger brother and his followers after having left the Dunardry following a family squabble (RK mixed with RL). The division of the family at that time is probably what kept it relatively weak despite its illustrious origins (RL).