Since Sajanzv has
chosen to make this issue a very public one, I will try to address as
much of it as I can for everyone's benefit. I also want to quote a
couple of applicable forum rules here for the public's information
and ask that we all abide by them:
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3. A. Thou shalt not flame,harass, demean,
insult or slander your fellow players in public or private view.
Flaming is defined as: posting ANY material that is
deliberately hostile,insulting, inflammatory, vulgar and or
socially charged which is being done for the sole purpose to
incite anger and/or debase another's character- the only
exception to the flaming rule is in character role play as long
as it is not excessive and reaches the level of harassment.
Accusations of inflammatory content will be weighed on
the basis of both content and any established history between the
posters to determine intent.
This applies to abusive,
obscene and or hateful Private messages as well as the forums
Any post or Signature that contains current politics,
phrases, and/or terminology such as Internet, AIM, computer,
America,Canada etc will be classified as OOC and ANY such OOC
flaming will be removed for content.
13. The usage of
outside messaging services such as MSN or AIM are optional for
Players of the RK and may not be REQUIRED as means of
communication to hold any position of the Kingdom either ingame
or forum related. Thou shalt not post ANY IM conversations quoted
or paraphrased that include ANY REAL LIFE information. Any game
related conversations that are posted into the RK forum are
subject to the forum laws and will be edited or removed for any
violations of forum laws contained therein.
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Sajanzv wrote:
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I just want to inform the people of Glasgow
that I have had enough of all the namecalling, the destruction of
intellectual property, and incompetence leading to leakage of
information by some people in RK, and therefore I am resigning as
Duke of Glasgow.
For the last two days, I have been
staring at a MSN status message whenever I log into MSN :
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/sajanzv/gdad.jpg
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What Sajan
neglected to mention is why this message has been staring at him. I
believe this one can be best responded to by the Goblin family, but I
can assure you that this response on Goblindad's part was not
unprovoked. Any decent husband would have risen to his wife's defense
as a result of the RL personal nature of Sajan's attacks upon
Goblinmami.
When Sajanzv
resigned from the RSA, he forfeited all rights to that organization's
private forums, onsite and offsite. Because we trusted him, it never
occurred to the offsite administrators to completely remove his
access right away. We were unaware that Sajan was still accessing the
information in that forum until he accessed personal, confidential
information pertaining to our soldiers and began an email campaign to
their private email addresses. Out of concern regarding the illegal
use of this information, a joint decision was made between the
general and the two band leaders who still had mod rights to that
forum. All personal data was cleared and deleted. All other
information was copied and removed from the site. No documents were
destroyed. Yesterday, I received an email sent by Sajan to my
personal email account, not IG. This email was sent to a usergroup
that did not define the addresses in the mail I received. This is a
copy of the mail sent to my soldiers:
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Vandalism on the site
From: sajanzv
(sajanzv@gmail.com)
You may not know this sender.Mark as
safe|Mark as unsafe
Sent: Sun 11/23/08 12:16 AM
To:
ardencapleshields@hotmail.fr
The following message is an
email sent to you by an administrator of "RSA's Glasgow
Regiment". If this message is spam, contains abusive or
other comments you find offensive please contact the webmaster of
the board at the following address:
ardencapleshields@hotmail.fr
Include this full email (especially the headers).
Message sent to you follows:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So everyone may please
note,
This site was started by the RL person behind
Erin_of_the_lake because of the massive RK forum problems. During
my time in the RSA, I was made an admin on the site. I never
deleted or edited anyone's posts or deleted anyone's access
without informing them. I left the RSA over 2 months ago, and
this site was not used much by the RSA since then.
Along
with Erin, I had compiled and posted a lot of guides for soldiers
and armies, along with intel reports regarding criminal
organizations and other issues.
On November 16th, my
account was deleted from this site by Argorian. When I asked him
about it today, he said he was only following orders to remove my
account because I no longer was in the RSA. This despite there
are plenty of people who have access to this site who are no
longer in the RSA.
I contacted the RL person behind Erin,
and she checked and confirmed that only my account was deleted.
Not only that, but a lot of threads were deleted by Goblinmami
and Bevin on November 16th.
The RL person behind Erin
reinstated me and removed Argorian's rights as admin. After that,
Goblinmami ordered the deletion of the entire forum and this was
carried out by Argorian. All that hard work that Erin and I had
put into making guides and what not were entirely deleted.
Such
sheer vandalism all because they do not like a person is
unbecoming of people. Therefore, this site is no longer available
to the RSA. Considering the fact that the RSA leaders destroyed a
lot of important work, they are getting off lightly.
Sajan
If you need any further information, please contact me
ingame or via MSN.
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Since there was
no way to know for certain which soldiers received this email, we
sent the following response to all Glasgow RSA members:
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To Glasgow Regiment,
You all may have
received a mail recently telling you about the offsite regiment.
This post is to make all the soldiers aware this situation and to
be able to have the facts of what occured.
The mail that
was sent to you all states that the General and the Captain of
the Regiment destroyed files and information from the off site
forum. Let me make it clear that the information that was deleted
by myself was the Stats of the Soldiers. The security of this
information, the infomation you all trusted to us was of
importance. We felt that we could not leave it on a forum that we
as your General and Captain had no administration rights to. No
vandalism occurred. No files have been destroyed. All pertinent
information contained within the offsite forum has been saved.
While the offsite forum was a great site, and very useful
when the forums were inaccessible to so many in the RSA, it is no
longer needed. People were being required to check both the
offsite forum and the RK forum, and were being asked to post in
both. This was both time consuming to the Soldiers of our
regiment. I as General made every effort to insure that all RSA
soldiers have access to the RK forums.
The message sent
to you made assumptions and the person that sent it made no
attempt, that I am aware of, to get any confirmation prior to
sending out this email. I know that I was never asked. Any
questions about this or anything else pertaining to the RSA may
be directed to myself or your band leader.
Again, let me
reiterate that NO FILES were completely DESTROYED as ascerted in
this email. Copies were made and stored. The offsite forum was
stripped of the information because people who no longer had a
right nor a legitimate reason to access personal information
about you, the soldiers of the RSA, were continuing to access and
using this information. The decision was made as a security
measure, not because someone was disliked.
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Most of this has
been addressed already. Erin, although the creator of the site, was
no longer a member of the RSA by virtue of her IG death. Therefore,
she had no legal right as a member of the RSA to do any of the things
that Sajan requested of her. The guides are not lost. The intel
reports are not lost. Any material submitted to the RSA becomes the
property of the RSA, just as in RL.
Sajanzv wrote:
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I do not spend so much time on RK helping
people, making guides, and what not only to have people call me
names, destroy my work, and tamper with accounts and forums.
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Sajanzv has in the
past been a tremendous help and mentor to new players. His wealth of
information and knowledge about the game has been invaluable to many
of us and we will be forever grateful to him for that. Nothing has
been destroyed. The forum still exists. There simply is no
information in it. Had he not abused his access privileges, we would
have never been forced to take action.
As to the rest of his
accusations, he is certainly entitled to his opinions. I personally
do not wish to fight with him or those who support him. I've had
enough of being wrongly accused and having my own name smeared and my
own reputation drug through the mud by the Duke. The only reason I am
responding at all to this post is to clarify the many questions being
addressed to me by my soldiers and my friends about the issues he has
raised. One question in particular has been asked and that is why is
he doing this, and why are the soldiers being drug into the middle of
what seems to be a personal issue. I'm not sure I can answer that, as
the general and other officers have tried to shield our soldiers from
the worst of his attacks. I apologize to any and all of you who feel
that you have been used or abused by this process. It should have
ended long ago.
